Breaking News
The gallery in the high profile case of Creighton v Vyse was abuzz today with rumour surrounding the identity of a star witness. These proceedings centre around author Scott Creighton’s allegation of forgery in his new book, “The Great Pyramid Hoax” – a story about possible dishonesty regarding the claim of the authenticity of the Khufu cartouche in Campbell’s Chamber in the Great Pyramid by Col. Vyse in 1837.
In the absence of Creighton’s legal team for another day, the judge took the opportunity to brief the jurors on some points of law.
He reminded the jurors that hearsay evidence such as repeated conversations held almost 200 years ago is highly unlikely to be admissible. The fact that there are illegible or incomplete cartouches in other chambers is irrelevant and that the motive is purely speculative.
The judge impressed upon the jurors the importance of prima facie evidence which, in this case, is the Khufu cartouche. It is upon this evidence that the case will succeed or fail. He also reminded jurors that the onus of proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, lay with the plaintiff – Creighton. The claimant has to prove that the cartouche is a forgery, not the defendant having to prove that the cartouche is a genuine Dynasty 4 motif.
As proof of forgery of the cartouche is critical to the outcome of this case, the testimony of expert witness, John Snape, is of paramount importance.
Despite repeated requests for verification of the bona fides of John Snape to give credibility to his findings on highly technical matters regarding brushwork and painting with regards to the alleged forgery, John Snape has offered no testimony.
These matters have been handled by Jon Ellison for the plaintiff, who repeats Snape’s findings to the jury.
A Background to the Book
The defence was given leave by the judge to present to the jury, the background to the book, so as to enable a clearer understanding of matters. A copy of conversations between Scott Creighton, Jon Ellison and others was tabled. It contained excerpts from GHMB in July 2014.
The Introductions
“Author: Scott Creighton
Date: July 16, 2014 04:59PM
Hello Dr Femano,
Welcome to the Board. Nice to see you here. I am sure you will have much to add to the discussion here. “
“Author: Audrey
Date: July 16, 2014 08:04PM
Welcome to the board Origyptian !
Any information you can share on the glyphs is most appreciated.”
The Assistance
“JE: I have opened this discussion with two art colleagues.. they have no knowledge of pyramids or Egypt .. other than this is some sort of Glyph ..
To them it's a drawing/painting. just like any other.
So we have two M.A. and one PH.d looking at it .
My two colleagues and myself were discussing this last night ..
And thanks for the pictures.. we were using internet pics from various sources.
We have reason to believe that the journal page is actually a design concept development drawing.
The pyramid artwork is a simplified and hurried, second or possibly third generation copy of an original artwork. Possibly the journal page itself.
Chicken and egg.. or should I say.. Quail and egg :)
There is far more detail .. I will have to write it up..
can I e mail you ??”
“SC: Hi Jon,
email: scottcreighton@hotmail.com
Look forward to hearing from you (and your friends).
Regards,
SC”
The Findings
JE: “I believe that the painter had no knowledge of glyphs and was simply copying Vyse's journal page.
Let us, for the sake of discussion, assume the markings are fake. This implies that Vyse (or his assistants, Raven and/or Hill) found a 'master' Khufu cartocuhe from some other unknown source and copied that original source.
Now, what if that original source had been presented to them horizontally--this means they would have copied it horizontally, yes?
What if this copy was then used as the 'template' for Vyse or Hill to copy into the chamber but they decide to rotate the drawing and copy it vertically onto the gabled roof trussing of Campbell's Chamber.
This would mean they are copying what was effictively a horizontal drawing vertically onto the roof trussing. Might this scenario explain what you are seeing with these glyphs?
This issue about the orientation of the cartouche confused me for a while.. I knew nothing about glyphs ..
This is how I understand the possible scenario ..
The cartouche master was originally horizontal. (possibly the Vyse journal page)
The cartouche master would normally be read right to left.. (Woo F Woo KH)
The cartouche master was then copied vertically
The cartouche copy was painted by a person using the master.
That person would normally and naturally write left to right. Hence painting top to bottom.
That person possibly had no or little knowledge of AE glyphs.
Hence the truncated appearance at the bottom juncture with the sidewall, (rapidly running out of space)
The slanting orientation of the individual characters and the deterioration of the draftsmanship from top to bottom.
Yes they run vertically..
which implies that they were painted horizontally before the block was laid.
however the photographs I have seen seem to indicate that the characters lean or slant . flip it 90 deg on the computer .. the whole thing.. not just the cartouche. This indicating that they were painted in situ by a right handed person.
I guess they could have been painted vertically, in situ five thousand years ago, but why??
try to make horizontal lines on a wall one above the other while standing to one side, as if writing
I'll explain later when I write it up ..
I'll E mail it .. I would not want to compromise any forthcoming research.”
Creighton Asks Leading Questions
SC: “Earlier you wrote this:
Quote
JE: Anyway he tried to paint it sideways right handed to make it appear as though it was done before the block was laid...
SC: I presume what you are saying here is that the faker is trying to make it APPEAR as if the glyphs had been written whilst the block was horizontal.
You then write this:
Quote
JE: The adjacent glyphs appear in photographs to be slanting. Each character.. left to right top to bottom. this would indicate that the glyphs were painted in situ. it is a natural trait for a right handed person. standing to the left and painting vertically to the right.
SC: So, what you are saying is that the glyphs were painted VERTICALLY but made to APPEAR as though written horizontally? My question then is, how do you know this--is it not just as possible that they actually WERE written horizontally and that is why they have the appearance of being written horizontally?”
Jon Ellison Presents His Resume
“I work in the world of art these days and recently had to do some renovation work on a Victorian military fort. The style of semi-formal, hand, sign writing on plaster seemed to remind me of this.
There are experts in this field who verify signatures .. Paintings. etc..
It may be worth looking into this.
I tend to play myself down .. Don't want to appear big headed.. :)
However I am experienced in this field.. "Masters Fine Art"
It is after all a painting ..
So why not consider the opinion of an arts professional..??
Or is this exclusively for the Egyptologists..??”
Creighton Agrees
SC: ” Why not indeed?”
The jury obviously was not privy to the number or content of the emails in which Creighton and Ellison discussed all the finer points of presenting the alleged forgery, but it is clear that, with the assistance of Jon Ellison, Creighton decided that he had sufficient material with which to head towards publication.
However, in his book, Creighton acknowledged an “independent researcher and art expert” named John Snape as his expert source.
This seeming departure from previous correspondence raised a few eyebrows amongst those following the lead-up to publication, prompting Martin Stower to query the identity of John Snape, and to ask whether, or not, John Snape could possibly be Jon Ellison.
Who Is John Snape?
This request for clarification engendered the following response from Jon Ellison:
“You just cannot stop telling lies can you ..
Martin Stower totally deluded BS.
Well you've screwed up yet again Popeye. lol
Google "Jelly" J.Ellison, you might get somewhere.
Simpleton.
If you weren't such a slimy sad little trud (sic) it would be half amusing.”
As the jury is not sequestered, during a short adjournment, some of the jurors and many in the gallery who wish to verify the identity of the technical expert cited by Creighton, took Jon Ellison at his word and Googled “Jelly” J. Ellison.
All were directed to similar websites about the city of Bournemouth, England – no Jon Ellison.
However, one juror Googled “Jon Snape” and was directed to a website which stated that Jon Snape’s interests include photography; he graduated with a Masters in Fine Art from the University of Portsmouth in 2003, and is currently based in Portsmouth, England.
Interestingly, Jon Ellison whose interests include photography, also graduated with a Masters in Fine Art in 2003. [grahamhancock.com]
The Silence
As proof of the identity of John Snape is crucial to Creighton’s case, it is a source of puzzlement to the jurors why neither Creighton, nor Ellison, will clarify just who is John Snape, and allow everyone to move on.
It is inconceivable that Scott Creighton would simply invent an expert in this matter and destroy his credibility. Therefore, John Snape must be a real person.
As Creighton has been quoted:
“I think if you make a claim then you should be prepared to back up your claim or withdraw it. Imagine a world where anyone could make a claim without backing it up with evidence!”
Maintaining silence in this matter only heightens suspicions surrounding the identity of John Snape. Not only the jury, but the entire gallery as well, is watching and waiting. When will Dr Femano finally provide his “higher standards of proof” and clarify the situation?
Or does the defence need to subpoena Creighton?
The jury awaits the outcome.
Court is adjourned until Monday.
lover
The gallery in the high profile case of Creighton v Vyse was abuzz today with rumour surrounding the identity of a star witness. These proceedings centre around author Scott Creighton’s allegation of forgery in his new book, “The Great Pyramid Hoax” – a story about possible dishonesty regarding the claim of the authenticity of the Khufu cartouche in Campbell’s Chamber in the Great Pyramid by Col. Vyse in 1837.
In the absence of Creighton’s legal team for another day, the judge took the opportunity to brief the jurors on some points of law.
He reminded the jurors that hearsay evidence such as repeated conversations held almost 200 years ago is highly unlikely to be admissible. The fact that there are illegible or incomplete cartouches in other chambers is irrelevant and that the motive is purely speculative.
The judge impressed upon the jurors the importance of prima facie evidence which, in this case, is the Khufu cartouche. It is upon this evidence that the case will succeed or fail. He also reminded jurors that the onus of proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, lay with the plaintiff – Creighton. The claimant has to prove that the cartouche is a forgery, not the defendant having to prove that the cartouche is a genuine Dynasty 4 motif.
As proof of forgery of the cartouche is critical to the outcome of this case, the testimony of expert witness, John Snape, is of paramount importance.
Despite repeated requests for verification of the bona fides of John Snape to give credibility to his findings on highly technical matters regarding brushwork and painting with regards to the alleged forgery, John Snape has offered no testimony.
These matters have been handled by Jon Ellison for the plaintiff, who repeats Snape’s findings to the jury.
A Background to the Book
The defence was given leave by the judge to present to the jury, the background to the book, so as to enable a clearer understanding of matters. A copy of conversations between Scott Creighton, Jon Ellison and others was tabled. It contained excerpts from GHMB in July 2014.
The Introductions
“Author: Scott Creighton
Date: July 16, 2014 04:59PM
Hello Dr Femano,
Welcome to the Board. Nice to see you here. I am sure you will have much to add to the discussion here. “
“Author: Audrey
Date: July 16, 2014 08:04PM
Welcome to the board Origyptian !
Any information you can share on the glyphs is most appreciated.”
The Assistance
“JE: I have opened this discussion with two art colleagues.. they have no knowledge of pyramids or Egypt .. other than this is some sort of Glyph ..
To them it's a drawing/painting. just like any other.
So we have two M.A. and one PH.d looking at it .
My two colleagues and myself were discussing this last night ..
And thanks for the pictures.. we were using internet pics from various sources.
We have reason to believe that the journal page is actually a design concept development drawing.
The pyramid artwork is a simplified and hurried, second or possibly third generation copy of an original artwork. Possibly the journal page itself.
Chicken and egg.. or should I say.. Quail and egg :)
There is far more detail .. I will have to write it up..
can I e mail you ??”
“SC: Hi Jon,
email: scottcreighton@hotmail.com
Look forward to hearing from you (and your friends).
Regards,
SC”
The Findings
JE: “I believe that the painter had no knowledge of glyphs and was simply copying Vyse's journal page.
Let us, for the sake of discussion, assume the markings are fake. This implies that Vyse (or his assistants, Raven and/or Hill) found a 'master' Khufu cartocuhe from some other unknown source and copied that original source.
Now, what if that original source had been presented to them horizontally--this means they would have copied it horizontally, yes?
What if this copy was then used as the 'template' for Vyse or Hill to copy into the chamber but they decide to rotate the drawing and copy it vertically onto the gabled roof trussing of Campbell's Chamber.
This would mean they are copying what was effictively a horizontal drawing vertically onto the roof trussing. Might this scenario explain what you are seeing with these glyphs?
This issue about the orientation of the cartouche confused me for a while.. I knew nothing about glyphs ..
This is how I understand the possible scenario ..
The cartouche master was originally horizontal. (possibly the Vyse journal page)
The cartouche master would normally be read right to left.. (Woo F Woo KH)
The cartouche master was then copied vertically
The cartouche copy was painted by a person using the master.
That person would normally and naturally write left to right. Hence painting top to bottom.
That person possibly had no or little knowledge of AE glyphs.
Hence the truncated appearance at the bottom juncture with the sidewall, (rapidly running out of space)
The slanting orientation of the individual characters and the deterioration of the draftsmanship from top to bottom.
Yes they run vertically..
which implies that they were painted horizontally before the block was laid.
however the photographs I have seen seem to indicate that the characters lean or slant . flip it 90 deg on the computer .. the whole thing.. not just the cartouche. This indicating that they were painted in situ by a right handed person.
I guess they could have been painted vertically, in situ five thousand years ago, but why??
try to make horizontal lines on a wall one above the other while standing to one side, as if writing
I'll explain later when I write it up ..
I'll E mail it .. I would not want to compromise any forthcoming research.”
Creighton Asks Leading Questions
SC: “Earlier you wrote this:
Quote
JE: Anyway he tried to paint it sideways right handed to make it appear as though it was done before the block was laid...
SC: I presume what you are saying here is that the faker is trying to make it APPEAR as if the glyphs had been written whilst the block was horizontal.
You then write this:
Quote
JE: The adjacent glyphs appear in photographs to be slanting. Each character.. left to right top to bottom. this would indicate that the glyphs were painted in situ. it is a natural trait for a right handed person. standing to the left and painting vertically to the right.
SC: So, what you are saying is that the glyphs were painted VERTICALLY but made to APPEAR as though written horizontally? My question then is, how do you know this--is it not just as possible that they actually WERE written horizontally and that is why they have the appearance of being written horizontally?”
Jon Ellison Presents His Resume
“I work in the world of art these days and recently had to do some renovation work on a Victorian military fort. The style of semi-formal, hand, sign writing on plaster seemed to remind me of this.
There are experts in this field who verify signatures .. Paintings. etc..
It may be worth looking into this.
I tend to play myself down .. Don't want to appear big headed.. :)
However I am experienced in this field.. "Masters Fine Art"
It is after all a painting ..
So why not consider the opinion of an arts professional..??
Or is this exclusively for the Egyptologists..??”
Creighton Agrees
SC: ” Why not indeed?”
The jury obviously was not privy to the number or content of the emails in which Creighton and Ellison discussed all the finer points of presenting the alleged forgery, but it is clear that, with the assistance of Jon Ellison, Creighton decided that he had sufficient material with which to head towards publication.
However, in his book, Creighton acknowledged an “independent researcher and art expert” named John Snape as his expert source.
This seeming departure from previous correspondence raised a few eyebrows amongst those following the lead-up to publication, prompting Martin Stower to query the identity of John Snape, and to ask whether, or not, John Snape could possibly be Jon Ellison.
Who Is John Snape?
This request for clarification engendered the following response from Jon Ellison:
“You just cannot stop telling lies can you ..
Martin Stower totally deluded BS.
Well you've screwed up yet again Popeye. lol
Google "Jelly" J.Ellison, you might get somewhere.
Simpleton.
If you weren't such a slimy sad little trud (sic) it would be half amusing.”
As the jury is not sequestered, during a short adjournment, some of the jurors and many in the gallery who wish to verify the identity of the technical expert cited by Creighton, took Jon Ellison at his word and Googled “Jelly” J. Ellison.
All were directed to similar websites about the city of Bournemouth, England – no Jon Ellison.
However, one juror Googled “Jon Snape” and was directed to a website which stated that Jon Snape’s interests include photography; he graduated with a Masters in Fine Art from the University of Portsmouth in 2003, and is currently based in Portsmouth, England.
Interestingly, Jon Ellison whose interests include photography, also graduated with a Masters in Fine Art in 2003. [grahamhancock.com]
The Silence
As proof of the identity of John Snape is crucial to Creighton’s case, it is a source of puzzlement to the jurors why neither Creighton, nor Ellison, will clarify just who is John Snape, and allow everyone to move on.
It is inconceivable that Scott Creighton would simply invent an expert in this matter and destroy his credibility. Therefore, John Snape must be a real person.
As Creighton has been quoted:
“I think if you make a claim then you should be prepared to back up your claim or withdraw it. Imagine a world where anyone could make a claim without backing it up with evidence!”
Maintaining silence in this matter only heightens suspicions surrounding the identity of John Snape. Not only the jury, but the entire gallery as well, is watching and waiting. When will Dr Femano finally provide his “higher standards of proof” and clarify the situation?
Or does the defence need to subpoena Creighton?
The jury awaits the outcome.
Court is adjourned until Monday.
lover