Hi folks. Longtime lurker, first time poster. I’ve been following the work of Graham (and others) since the 90’s. I’m just a humble student, but I’ve found something (potentially) interesting that I think might be worthy of follow-up by people with more expertise in these matters.
Please see the following images:
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A. Western side of Pillar 43 at Gobekli Tepe.
B. Drawing of A.
C. MIRRORED version of B.
D. Cropped image from C.
E. Google Earth image of underwater landmasses 1 & 2 to east of Australia. I’m calling 1 “the bird” and 2 “the snake”.
F. Google Earth image of underwater landmass 3 east of landmasses 1 & 2.
My presentation is a bit rough, but you should be able to see what I’m getting at. I would encourage interested observers to go to Google Earth to get a better view of landmasses 1 & 2. I find that landmass 2 is best viewed obliquely and, from certain angles, is very, very close to Image 2 on Pillar 43 (mirrored). The contours of landmass 1 are likewise very similar to Image 1 on Pillar 43 (mirrored).
The major discrepancy is the head of “the bird”, now obscured by modern New Guinea. This discrepancy, and the smearing of the outlines of both landmasses, could be accounted for by millennia of crustal shifts, sedimentation, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, cosmic impacts etc. I understand that there are many images of birds and snakes on the stonework of Tas Tepeler, but most of the birds seem more “birdlike” and the snakes more “snakelike”
The most interesting part, for me, is the almost exact positional relationship of 1 & 2 relative to each other on both the pillar and the landmasses. I find this beyond the bounds of coincidence. At minimum, the pillar images and their relative positions are exponentially more similar to the submerged landmasses than any attempted constellation match-ups I’ve seen.
I do, however, believe that the pillars show important astronomical bodies and constellations. The vulture on Pillar 43, for example, doesn’t match any underwater landmasses I can find in the South Pacific, but it does seem a good fit for Cygnus. That said, I don’t believe ALL of these images represent astronomical patterns and researchers are sometimes overstating their case in this regard.
I find the position of pillar Image 3, described by researchers as everything from the sun to a human head to the north celestial pole, to be very interesting. It seems to equate, position-wise at least, to another large land mass, east of 1 &2. (See my image F).
I believe the images on Pillar 43 to be a mish-mash of important astronomical bodies, shamanistic animal totems and various cultic symbols important to the people of the region. The stonework at Tas Tepeler is hugely impressive by the standards of the current (flawed) paradigm, but is vastly inferior to the megalithic architecture and precision machining at sites like Puma Punku or the Giza Plateau that myself (and many others) take to be remnants from a pre-Younger Dryas (YD) civilization.
My (evolving) opinion is that images 1 & 2 on Pillar 43 were originally understood to be maps of countries that were above water during the last ice age. This knowledge has been lost due to the environmental horrors of the YD and associated cultural and technological degradation. By the time Pillar 43 was carved, 1 & 2 are just totemic images, albeit important ones, and the mirroring isn’t important. Image 3, the “ball” might even be a representation of a now-submerged homeland. If the Piri Reis map could show an ice-free Antarctica, then once extant maps of a pre-YD world shouldn’t be an incredible concept.
Similarly, images 4 & 5 could be crude representations of clamp-holes seen at various pre-YD megalithic sites, hence their placement near the edge of the stone. Again, this speaks to the idea of a degraded culture seeking to preserve knowledge from the past.
Questions:
Have these submerged landmasses been discussed before in relation to Pillar 43? I’ve looked (not exhaustively) but couldn’t find anything. If so, please provide a link and feel free to ignore the above.
Also, any links to maps of the region showing lower, pre-YD water levels? How do these landmasses appear and how accurate are these representations given millennia of geological activity?
Hope this is of interest.
Cheers.
Please see the following images:
A. Western side of Pillar 43 at Gobekli Tepe.
B. Drawing of A.
C. MIRRORED version of B.
D. Cropped image from C.
E. Google Earth image of underwater landmasses 1 & 2 to east of Australia. I’m calling 1 “the bird” and 2 “the snake”.
F. Google Earth image of underwater landmass 3 east of landmasses 1 & 2.
My presentation is a bit rough, but you should be able to see what I’m getting at. I would encourage interested observers to go to Google Earth to get a better view of landmasses 1 & 2. I find that landmass 2 is best viewed obliquely and, from certain angles, is very, very close to Image 2 on Pillar 43 (mirrored). The contours of landmass 1 are likewise very similar to Image 1 on Pillar 43 (mirrored).
The major discrepancy is the head of “the bird”, now obscured by modern New Guinea. This discrepancy, and the smearing of the outlines of both landmasses, could be accounted for by millennia of crustal shifts, sedimentation, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, cosmic impacts etc. I understand that there are many images of birds and snakes on the stonework of Tas Tepeler, but most of the birds seem more “birdlike” and the snakes more “snakelike”
The most interesting part, for me, is the almost exact positional relationship of 1 & 2 relative to each other on both the pillar and the landmasses. I find this beyond the bounds of coincidence. At minimum, the pillar images and their relative positions are exponentially more similar to the submerged landmasses than any attempted constellation match-ups I’ve seen.
I do, however, believe that the pillars show important astronomical bodies and constellations. The vulture on Pillar 43, for example, doesn’t match any underwater landmasses I can find in the South Pacific, but it does seem a good fit for Cygnus. That said, I don’t believe ALL of these images represent astronomical patterns and researchers are sometimes overstating their case in this regard.
I find the position of pillar Image 3, described by researchers as everything from the sun to a human head to the north celestial pole, to be very interesting. It seems to equate, position-wise at least, to another large land mass, east of 1 &2. (See my image F).
I believe the images on Pillar 43 to be a mish-mash of important astronomical bodies, shamanistic animal totems and various cultic symbols important to the people of the region. The stonework at Tas Tepeler is hugely impressive by the standards of the current (flawed) paradigm, but is vastly inferior to the megalithic architecture and precision machining at sites like Puma Punku or the Giza Plateau that myself (and many others) take to be remnants from a pre-Younger Dryas (YD) civilization.
My (evolving) opinion is that images 1 & 2 on Pillar 43 were originally understood to be maps of countries that were above water during the last ice age. This knowledge has been lost due to the environmental horrors of the YD and associated cultural and technological degradation. By the time Pillar 43 was carved, 1 & 2 are just totemic images, albeit important ones, and the mirroring isn’t important. Image 3, the “ball” might even be a representation of a now-submerged homeland. If the Piri Reis map could show an ice-free Antarctica, then once extant maps of a pre-YD world shouldn’t be an incredible concept.
Similarly, images 4 & 5 could be crude representations of clamp-holes seen at various pre-YD megalithic sites, hence their placement near the edge of the stone. Again, this speaks to the idea of a degraded culture seeking to preserve knowledge from the past.
Questions:
Have these submerged landmasses been discussed before in relation to Pillar 43? I’ve looked (not exhaustively) but couldn’t find anything. If so, please provide a link and feel free to ignore the above.
Also, any links to maps of the region showing lower, pre-YD water levels? How do these landmasses appear and how accurate are these representations given millennia of geological activity?
Hope this is of interest.
Cheers.