60 ton Gallery Pull, using only 6 Men.
There are allot of ludicrous things claimed here on the blog. I am not claiming 6 men are going to pull 60 tons up the Grand Gallery, though I am having a problem finding where the fault is, in this proposal. The math seems correct. I have used as many reputable sources, as I could find. I suspect, it's in the 6:1 rope lever height. Additionally, a 1.0 (COF) coefficient of friction, is pushing it. Wikipedia, is also not the most reliable source.
I'm not adverse to men pulling on rope, especially if we can use a combination of simple machines and lost technology. If this lift system actually works, and you use a movable pulley effect, have we obtained a mechanical advantage of 12:1. For fun, I started on a system that could be used inside G1. I believe some of stones were approx. 60 tons. The Grand Gallery has an Incline plain of 26.2 degrees.
So what do we have, in the way of simple machines...
Ref: [en.wikipedia.org] 6:1 Lift.
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1. Incline Plain = 26.2 degrees. We need 12,000Kg. to reach equilibrium. Ref: [hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu] (COF 1.0)
Rope tension convertion of Newtons to lbs. 11764 Newtons = 26448lbs. Ref: [www.convertunits.com]
Acceleration = Equilibrium. I play with the mass until I get a 0 in that window. I have not sized the ropes in the drawing. You can use more than one rope.
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In the picture below, I placed the Grand Hall as if it were level. This is just for a comparison to the illustration of the Rope Lever, as shown in the Wikipedia drawing. There seems to be little information concerning this technology. If anyone has more info, please share it with me.
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Here is how it would normally appear.
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2. Lost Technology rope lever 6:1 Ceiling 23 ' high. Rope lever 6:1 = 2000Kg. 2000Kg. = 4409lbs.
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3. Movable Pulley effect 2:1 2000Kg. is now 1,000Kg. In pounds: 4409lbs cut in half. = 2204lbs.
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60,000lbs (60 tons) and it requires 1,000Kg, or 2204lbs. of Force Applied.
If Dr. Heribert Illig and Prof. Dr. Dipl. Ing. H.U. Niemitz calculations are correct. 12 men can pull a 2.5 ton stone (5000lbs.)
On level surface: here 11 haulers are enough. This number is rounded to 12, because they work in 2 groups and in pairs of 2 men each. Including a overseer, and some men to take care of the tracks and ropes we get a hauling team of 15 men. Ref: [www.cheops-pyramide.ch]
How many Men needed.
As we only need 1000Kg. or 2204lbs., it would be half the amount of men required per Dr. Heribert in the above calcs. He estimated 12 men for 2.5 tons or 5000 lbs. For us, a 6 man team will work.
That's ridicules... 6 men to pull a 60 ton stone up G1's Grand Gallery. It would require more effort to reset the lever, by moving it upwards each time. If it worked, they would need to move and reset 9 times to move it from bottom to top.
There are allot of ludicrous things claimed here on the blog. I am not claiming 6 men are going to pull 60 tons up the Grand Gallery, though I am having a problem finding where the fault is, in this proposal. The math seems correct. I have used as many reputable sources, as I could find. I suspect, it's in the 6:1 rope lever height. Additionally, a 1.0 (COF) coefficient of friction, is pushing it. Wikipedia, is also not the most reliable source.
I'm not adverse to men pulling on rope, especially if we can use a combination of simple machines and lost technology. If this lift system actually works, and you use a movable pulley effect, have we obtained a mechanical advantage of 12:1. For fun, I started on a system that could be used inside G1. I believe some of stones were approx. 60 tons. The Grand Gallery has an Incline plain of 26.2 degrees.
So what do we have, in the way of simple machines...
Ref: [en.wikipedia.org] 6:1 Lift.
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Clik here to view.
1. Incline Plain = 26.2 degrees. We need 12,000Kg. to reach equilibrium. Ref: [hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu] (COF 1.0)
Rope tension convertion of Newtons to lbs. 11764 Newtons = 26448lbs. Ref: [www.convertunits.com]
Acceleration = Equilibrium. I play with the mass until I get a 0 in that window. I have not sized the ropes in the drawing. You can use more than one rope.
Image may be NSFW.
Clik here to view.
In the picture below, I placed the Grand Hall as if it were level. This is just for a comparison to the illustration of the Rope Lever, as shown in the Wikipedia drawing. There seems to be little information concerning this technology. If anyone has more info, please share it with me.
Image may be NSFW.
Clik here to view.
Here is how it would normally appear.
Image may be NSFW.
Clik here to view.
Image may be NSFW.
Clik here to view.
Image may be NSFW.
Clik here to view.
2. Lost Technology rope lever 6:1 Ceiling 23 ' high. Rope lever 6:1 = 2000Kg. 2000Kg. = 4409lbs.
Image may be NSFW.
Clik here to view.
3. Movable Pulley effect 2:1 2000Kg. is now 1,000Kg. In pounds: 4409lbs cut in half. = 2204lbs.
Image may be NSFW.
Clik here to view.
Image may be NSFW.
Clik here to view.
60,000lbs (60 tons) and it requires 1,000Kg, or 2204lbs. of Force Applied.
If Dr. Heribert Illig and Prof. Dr. Dipl. Ing. H.U. Niemitz calculations are correct. 12 men can pull a 2.5 ton stone (5000lbs.)
On level surface: here 11 haulers are enough. This number is rounded to 12, because they work in 2 groups and in pairs of 2 men each. Including a overseer, and some men to take care of the tracks and ropes we get a hauling team of 15 men. Ref: [www.cheops-pyramide.ch]
How many Men needed.
As we only need 1000Kg. or 2204lbs., it would be half the amount of men required per Dr. Heribert in the above calcs. He estimated 12 men for 2.5 tons or 5000 lbs. For us, a 6 man team will work.
That's ridicules... 6 men to pull a 60 ton stone up G1's Grand Gallery. It would require more effort to reset the lever, by moving it upwards each time. If it worked, they would need to move and reset 9 times to move it from bottom to top.